P4 Math: One Party Unchanged ( Advanced )

2 parties "Before and After" comparison questions are staple section C questions in P4 exams.

The following question is a type of "One Party Changed" question.
Such questions are similar to the ones here.

But this version poses a slight challenge when students attempt to solve it via model drawing (comparison models).

Chris has 40 more erasers than Devi at first.
After Devi bought 4 more erasers,
Chris now has 5 times as many erasers as Devi.

How many erasers did Devi have at first?


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